August 9, 2004

Calm Like a Bomb

(Written on 8/6, for the curious, but I just got around to posting)

Ignite, ignite.

Not to go off on a totally Livejournalish rant, but life around here sucks at the moment. Dad around the house all day pretty much threw everything off, to the point where none of us is getting enough sleep, tempers are flaring, and it's all made worse by my supposed job hunt, which involves on the one hand fending off 24/7 requests on my time by parents who then get angry when I haven't the time to jump in the car and drive to town, which is apparently the only true way to get a job. So not so good. And my attitude towards the thing is not the best, either. So just not good. Hopefully we'll be fixing that next week or so.

On a bookish note, the Bourne Identity is pretty good. In ways, it's even better than the movie, and pretty much totally different as well. Worth reading. The Bourne Supremacy, which I have yet to see so can't compare to the book, is also worth reading, with the caveat that it's very much one of those late '80s fascination-with-the-newly-discovered-Orient books (you've read them before, no doubt), and sort of suffers for it. But good. I also found my airplane reading from Michigan, by the name of Road to Baghdad - Behind Enemy Lines, a highly interesting read as well. It's the autobiography of an American officer who got stuck in Kuwait as Saddam overran the place, and a rather peculiar look at the leadup to the first Gulf War.

Which sort of belatedly leads us to a topic which I meant to cover days ago during all those politics posts, but just haven't had the energy to yet. And that's Iraq. I'm a little hesitant to go to this much effort to talk about it, because I think you've either made up your mind about the thing, or you haven't. Nevertheless, I entertain myself with things like this, so deal.

This thread fairly well sums up my views about a war with Iraq before and during the actual invasion part of things. Too, a read through this timeline and the ones after it make for some interesting reading.

So basically, my thinking on the war went about like this:

- Saddam is not exactly a champion of goodness, light, and the warm fuzzy feeling. Even if he wasn't responsible for all the things we said he was responsible for, what he IS responsible for is bad enough.

- Too, Saddam is either trying to acquire WMD or is trying to develop them or has some left over from when he actually did have some. And at the time, pretty much everybody else in the world agreed by default. I mean, throughout the 90s it seemed to be standard operating procedure for everyone to just figure that Saddam was a sneaky bastard who was hiding the things from us. Why else is he giving the inspectors such a hard time?

- WMD aside, there are a number of UN resolution violations to deal with, some or all of which void the Gulf War truce we made with Iraq.

- We've been fighting a sort of low-level air war with Iraq for about a decade. It doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot. And it doesn't appear as if it's going to inside of the lifetime of either Saddam or his kids.

- It would be sort of nice if we could effect an actual democratic government in that part of the world at some point.

So on the strength of all that, I ended up being in favor of the whole thing on the strength of what I could figure out about it, at the same time being fairly distrustful of what the administration had to say about it all. Notably:

- Iraq may or may not have been tied in with Osama Bin Laden, but I tend to doubt that Al Queda had any sort of real presence in Iraq prior to the invasion and resultant chaos.

- Despite my feeling that Iraq had or wanted WMD, much of the case the Bush administration was making was pretty iffy, where not outright scandalous (see also: Plame, Valarie and Intelligence, British). This ought to have been slightly more disturbing than I found it at the time.

- Too, whatever France and the UN thought they were doing, Bush's little leap in the face of world opinion was slightly iffy. I still can't help but think that if somebody like Clinton had been doing all the war buildup, the world would have jumped in line, whereas Bush pisses people off just by being himself.

There were also a couple of other questions to be asked about Iraq, such as "Why Iraq, when we have perfectly legitimate terrorist states like North Korea, who everyone basically agrees do not champion the causes of small forest animals?" To that, I figure, well, there's a fairly large chance that going after North Korea will result in chunks of, say, South Korea going missing, not to mention, well, we're already fighting Iraq, so why not?

So at the end of the day I came down in favor of the war, while being rather distrustful of the administration about the matter. Not the way I'd like to be about it, but whatever.


At any rate, here we are more than a year later. The invasion part of the war is over, and the occupation has been going for a year or so. And my thoughts on that?

- It would appear that we were either very much mistaken about the WMD thing, or the Iraqis were exceedingly clever in hiding the things. Yes, this was a big part of why we went to war. No, it does not to my mind invalidate the whole war.

- I haven't entirely made up my mind on a lot of things about the occupation, a lot of which has to do with my feeling that I'm not getting a very clear picture of what's going on. I blame the media, which seems to have become very very polarized on the subject, to the point that any pretense of objectivity has been thrown out.

- That having been said, there's been a lot said about there not being a plan, and the latter bit of that timeline I linked to previously should illustrate that pretty well. What's the plan for an Iraqi government? We dunno. Where are the WMDs? We dunno. Why the hell didn't you forsee the looting? We dunno. In and of itself, this is deeply troublesome.

- And I dislike the business of trying to compare this whole thing to Vietnam, which was a different war at a different time in a different place about different things. Nevertheless, whatever we're doing with the Iraqi government reminds me very strongly of our escapades in Vietnam, not to mention Latin America. Chalabi and company seemed Diem-like in their unpopularity and their lack of a clue. And Allawi, so far as I can tell, is a rather unpleasant individual, not to mention a former Baathist. This leads one to wonder if we're promoting democracy over there, or a thinly-disguised dictatorship in a way that for some reason reminds me of the 1980s.

Dunno. But I get the feeling that my pet rabbit could run this whole fiasco better than the Bush administration.

And on another note, what's going on in Afghanistan these days? Anybody?

Posted by Dwip at August 9, 2004 12:14 PM
Comments

I once heard that if you don't have a job, you should treat job hunting like it's your job, and make that clear to your parents. I have no idea of the usefulness of the advice, but it sounds good, so I pass it along.

I'd say something about Iraq, but I don't think I've seen the front page of the NYT in 3 weeks, and to tell you the truth, it's rather nice that way. I may be a willfully uninformed citizen, but since during the school year it's like, "I have world affairs to think about on top of everything else," since I'm not thinking about the everything else now, I don't particularly feel like thinking about the world affairs either.

Speaking of Calm Like a Bomb, I watched the Matrix on TBS last night. It was sorta screwy how, in the foyer shootup scene, they had the security guard say "Holy smokes!" instead of "Holy shit!", and then kept every single frame of shooting.

Posted by: Regina at August 9, 2004 4:18 PM

Dwip, I know this will make a lot of people furious, but what the world can't stand is a leader who thinks he's right, and does what appears to be the right thing in a timely manner. They especially hate it when he is right in what he does, but that is my opinion which has little bearing on this group of left wing extremist people.

Posted by: Clyos at August 10, 2004 1:07 PM

The biggest difference between left and right in this country is the right nails everybody and talks about it quietly at home, whereas the left nails everybody and talks about it at social functions.

Reagan gave Saddam WMD tech. Then he had the gall to use it against us. It's a 15 year old grudge match. 9/11 gave the Reps a reason to pop him without the UN giving the thumbs up.

W. is a face. Ron was a face. Clinton is a BSer. Look at what happened to the last guys that tried to talk for themselves (G. Bush and Carter). If the Reps can clear this mess before the original deal gets old enough to end up in a book, they win. They have to finish it now. G Bush was in the right, W. is not.

Afganistan is trying to do to us what it did to the USSR. But we are doing to it what we did to Cambodia. (That statement is not in any way based on anything I've read, only my guess. It's as good an answer as anything I've read though.)

This is fun!!! I gotta go back to work.

Posted by: Tim at August 10, 2004 3:04 PM