| Marius, 9/26/02 |
| 1250 AD (0) - French soldiers in Akwesasne meet and elect one of their
captains, a noble of the Marian line, as the next King of the French.
King Marius IV immediately sent riders to assess the shape of the
realm. The Great Sabotage, it appeared, was only partially
successful - two irons had been cut, but Hiawatha still had iron at
Niagra Falls and horses. Judging by the odd mustketman, they also
had saltpeter. Militarily, the assault on Alleghany needed troops
in a bad way. Searching high and low, Marius IV found... hordes of
knights doing MP duty all over France! This would have to change,
he declared, issuing orders to mobilize them. French knights
issued from the cities of France, forming up an army before the Iroquois
garrison in Alleghany. The Iroquois Front at the ascension of Marius IV:
1255 AD (1) - A dozen or so Iroquois units burn themselves up on our
attacking armies, wounding them muchly and killing the last of our
musketmen from the Great Sabotage, but that's 5 or so knights we don't
need to be worrying about, plus some lesser units. Cities build
stuff, but King Marius blindly ignores whatever they were, mostly -
Grenoble finishes a knight and starts on a barracks, Tours finishes a bank
and starts on a knight, Rouen finishes a courthouse and starts on a
library, and Avignon finishes a barracks and starts on a knight.
Various errant pikemen are given guns and trained as musketeers.
We have now Arrived. The Iroquois are barely able to mount
coherant offensives anymore, except the odd knight or two, and for the
most part they die on defense, even despite my abysmal luck with the RNG.
Fortunately, we're cranking the best offensive units for the next
age like mad, and they WORK for the most part. The Aztec war is kind
of on hold, and somebody might want to send some troops down to go take
over those cities in Paradise. Take and hold, that is. In
Iroquois land, I've been razing more often than taking, because our
culture really bites. On that note, remember to RUSH THE LIBRARY IN
ALLEGHANY! :) Oh, and on the Salamanca attack, note the river
placement. We don't want to be attacking across them. |
| Stormboy, 9/29/02 |
| interregnum (1300 AD): After the death of King Marius, a young prince
from the house of Stormboy claims the French throne. He vows to continue
his predecessor's campaign against the evil Iroquois. 1305 AD: Our cavalry sweeps in and captures the Iroquois capitol of Salamanca! Most of its citizens are resisting, we respond by starving them :). Previously captured Gayagaahe gets the same treatment. The Iroquois relocate their capital to Grand River. Physics research has been completed, magnetism is next. 1310 AD: We attack the desert city of Genauga, wipe out much of its garrisoned troops, but fall just short of capturing it. 1315 AD: We make a deal with the English: they give us furs, 1 sack of gold per turn and 9 sacks of gold up front, in exchange for our wines. 1320 AD: Another cavalry regiment sweeps in from Rheims, and captures and destroys Tonawanda. There's enough room in that area for 2 good cities, so we send some of our settlers in that direction. 1325 AD: Another blow for the Iroquois: our cavalry rides out from Salamanca and captures Grand River, their new capitol. Once again resistance is handled by starving the city's inhabitants. The Iroquois desert city of Kiohera is conquered by one of our remaining knight regiments. 1330 AD: Magnetism research has finished, only the Theory of Gravity is needed now, to lead us into a new era. 1335 AD: The Aztecs in the Paradise peninsula get treated to some cavalry charges as well: Tepexpan is swiftly taken from them. The city of Amiens is founded in former Iroquois territory, near the ruins of Tonawanda. 1340 AD: After many years under Aztec occupation, Dijon is finally liberated. The last Aztec stronghold, Tepetlaoxtoc, falls later that year, as our southern cavalry regiment continues to sweep through Paradise. The Aztecs have been driven from our continent, the Paradise peninsula is ours! Large groups of Persian knights have been spotted in Babylonia, moving towards Marseilles! Reinforcements are sent in immediately. 1345 AD: Our Golden Age has ended :(. What's worse the Persians have crossed into our borders, they're clearly up to no good. We give them one last chance to leave, but they promptly declare war! Time to make peace with the Aztecs: for 102 sacks of gold and 11 sacks of gold per turn, we promise to leave them alone. The people of Salamanca stop resisting, which allows us to rush a temple in their town. 1350 AD: Our troops near Marseilles manage to destroy half the Persian knights before they can attack the town. The surviving ones move away from Marseilles, in the direction of Akwesane. Kahnawake, an Iroquois city west of Salamanca, is conquered by the Amiens cavalry regiment. Another French city is founded on former Iroquois land: Cherbourg, just east of Amiens. King Stormboy "the Conqueror ", dies during the siege of Kahnawake. The Iroquois empire has effectively been cut in two, I don't see them posing much of a problem anymore. So far there have been very few casualties, there's room for more troops and we've still got plenty of cash. The big question is what to do with the Persians. Is this the time to get the Babylonians in on our side? They could take the brunt of the Persian attack, while we mop up the Iroquois. Otherwise, we may have to settle for a quick peace with Persia, cause I'm not sure how long we can keep up a two front land war by ourselves. One more thing: so far I've kept most of the conquered cities, starving them instead of destroying them. I keep starving them until the last resistor has gone, then I rush a temple. I'm not sure how effective this is (if it has any real effect at all), but cities rarely seem to flip if they're being starved (at least in my games they don't :P). You just need to remember to switch your citizens back to tax collectors (or scientists) each turn, cause the game automatically reassigns them to normal duty. What do the rest of you think: does it actually work or am I talking complete nonsense ;)? |
| Marius, 9/29/02 |
| Wow, great turn! :) I say get Babylon in to help fight Persia. Two reasons. First, it gets Persia off our back so we can go thrash Hiawatha in peace. ;) Second, it weakens up Babylon, who we may or may not want to take out as our next target. As to the starvation thing, it does in fact work. Part of the culture flip calculations involve foreign nationals in city (not just resisting ones, but all). Less of those, less chance of flip. That's why I suggested starving em out in the first place. |
| Stormboy, 9/29/02 |
| Oops, I missed that part in your previous post about starvation,
_Marius. Glad to see you think it works :). Our empire is now so big it doesn't fit in a single zoomed-out screenshot anymore :). This is France anno 1350 (minus the Paradise cities). |
| Marius, 9/29/02 |
| Woot. We rule. And I suppose it's about time to bring up the next question. How do we want to win this thing? Conquest? Domination? Culture and diplomacy are probably out, but we should be able to wing a space race. Thoughts? I suppose since we're in war mode right now, I'm favoring that, even though it will take longer. We've got a lot of choices. Firstly, the Iroquois must die. After that, we've got some leeway. Babylon and Persia suddenly become the remaining civs on our continent. We want them both dead, of course. And we owe both of them. The one idea is to get a RoP with Babylon, run our cav through them, and go take on Persia. There's a lot of problems with that, namely Babylonian culture flipping and supply line length. The other option is to deal with the Persian war, them go slaughter the Babylonians. They're close, and we'll deal with their culture flipping ways for all time. OTOH, they've been feeding us science for a while. After that, I say we go dispatch 10 or 15 cav and go thrash Japan. They're no threat to anybody, they're taking up map space, and they'd make a nice base in the event we decide to go carve up the other people. The Aztec conquest is going to want to wait a while. Tanks, perhaps, and by the time we finish the Babylonians and Persians, we ought to have them. And we'll need a lot of em, cause Azteca's pretty big. And it'll suck. <shrug> The other half of the world is going to be about the same way. Amphibious assaults spend a lot of time sucking, and we may want to turn off war at that point and go persue a space race victory or something. |
| Stormboy, 9/29/02 |
| I'd say get the Babs and Persians fighting, finish off the Iroquois,
then re-evaluate the situation. If either of them quickly gains the
upper hand, it may be best to go with the Japan plan first. Things could
get complicated though, if they get other civs in on their war. Then again, what do I know? I'm a tactician, not a strategist :P. |
| Berrys, 9/30/02 |
| I'm in favour of trying to get a military alliance with the Babs
against the Persians, let them weaken each other and then go for the
Babylonians. Meanwhile we can be settling the old Iroquois lands, making
sure the Aztecs don't jump in there first )I wouldn't mind betting
they've got half a dozen settlers in galleys floating around just wating
to pounce). I guess we're going to total annihilation of the Iroquois, unless there is some really nasty crisis that means curtailing the war before total extinction. Another question we need to consider is where to build our Forbidden Palace. The ideal place would be somewhere in the East on the border between Babylon and Persia, but can we wait that long? otherwise it's going to have to be somewhere in the Iroquois lands which would give us a much smaller number of really productive cities. :/ |
| Stormboy, 9/30/02 |
| If we're gonna build the FP sooner rather than later, then Salamanca looks like a decent place. It would be nice if we could get a leader to rush it, I would hate to see the city flip before the FP is finished (I'm not sure if a city can flip once you've build your FP there). |
| Marius, 9/30/02 |
| More thoughts on the FP issue: We want the FP sooner than later. Maximized potential and whatnot. That means either the Iroquois lands or France proper. That having been decided, I see three good locations: Oka, Tours, or Chartres. They've all got benefits: Oka: Lets us keep the palace at Paris, and includes a little bit more land than, say, Salamanca. Tours: Includes some of the Iroquois lands, and covers most of our old core cities. The obvious thing to do here is move the Palace into Babylon or Persia. Chartres: Includes our old core, some Iroquois lands, and some of upper Paradise. Also going to want to move the Palace into Babylon/Persia. And the Babylonian alliance plan sounds good. |
| Berrys, 10/2/02 |
| The saga continues: 1355 AD (1) - Following the death of King Stormboy at the siege of Kahnawake the French military elect the little known Duc De Berrier as regent during these tumultuous times until a new king can be found. Seeing that fighting a land war on two fronts is going to be difficult, the Duc De Berrier sends envoys to the court of King Hamurabi to request a joint millitary venture against the Persians. King Hamurabi is only too pleased to enter into such an agreement and immediately declares war on Persia. Meanwhile on the home front the disloyal people of Grand river defect back to the Iroquois. Not standing for any of this, the Duc duc Berrier orders the immediate re-taking of Grand River and shows the people the error of their ways by extorting large amounts of tax and burning their crops. 1360 AD (2) - The people of France enjoy the rule of the regent so much they expand the royal palace. Our glorious cavalry take Centralia. 1365 AD (3) - Hiawatha sends envoys to the Duc de Berrier requesting a peace treaty - the Duc demands all the Iroquois cities as his terms for peace, naturally, the envoys decline such an offer and the Duc sends them packing after having thre skin flayed from their faces. The Babylonians recruite the Russians in the alliance against the Persians. News reaches Paris that the English are building Newton's University. Fierce fighting ensues and many cavalry units are killed in the seige of Oka. Our cavalry have better fortune on the western from, raising Chondote to the ground. The Duc sends merchants to England to negotiate a deal to trade our excess ivory. Elizabeth offers for 15 sacks of gold, her world map and 15 sacks of gold per turn for our ivory. 1370 AD (4) - Centralia defect to Iroquois, our cavalry retake it, raise it to the ground and build Poitiers in its place. Oka is finally taken and raised to the ground. 1375 AD (5) - A new city - Toulouse - is built on the ashes of Oka. Our Cavalry units advance on Cattaraugus, the new Iroquois capital. 1380 AD (6) - News reaches Paris that the Babylonians have completed Smiths Trading Company. Military build-up continues for the assault on Cattaraugus. 1385 AD (7) - The Babylonians recruit the Aztecs and Japanese in the alliance against Persia. The Aztecs declare war on the Persians. Fierce fighting ensues at the siege of Cattaraugus. 1390 AD ( 8 ) - The French people are so enamoured with the fine rule of the Duc de Berrier's rule that they expand the royal palace again. They want the Duc to become king, but he declines the offer, and declares his intention to retire as regent when the 10 year old prince Marius reaches an age when he can rule. Civil disorder erupts in Allegeheny, the governor is told in no uncertain terms to manage people's moods, or else! The Duc de Berrier at the battle of Cattaraugus heads up the Elite cavalry battalion, and in the process of taking he city, a great leader, Cardinal Richelieu emerges. The Duc orders him back to Paris. 1395 AD (9) - The glorous Duc de Berrier advances cavalry regiments on Mauch Chunk. 1400 AD (10) - The Duc's final battle is at Mauch Chunk, which is taken against little resistance. He resigns his post as regent and Prince Marius is crowned the new king of France.
Not a bad turn. The Iroquois are all but defeated, having not mounted
an attack in any of my 10 turns. The next player ought to be able to
finish them off I would guess (Marius). We have two cavalry ready to
attack Ganogeh and musketeers on their way north to Poitiers. |
| Marius, 10/2/02 |
| 1400 AD (0) - King Marius reaches the age of twenty years and takes
the throne of France as King Marius V after undergoing testing to
determine that he is, in fact, not another mosaic. When stabbed
with a large needle, the Prince was heard to cry out in pain before
having the unfortunate courtier beheaded. That was enough for most
Frenchmen, and thus it was that France had a king again. The new king, along with his main advisor, the great hero Richelieu, looked around the world and were reasonably content. Iroquois power was all but broken, much of their land a great new province of France. Persia was in a bad way, beset by Babylonian hordes. Speaking of Babylon, the king was slightly distressed at how much they had grown. And how many resources they had... FOUR saltpeter deposits, two herds of horses, three iron deposits, and they would likely gain control of Persia's two horses as well. Resource warfare was going to prove hard, should it come to that. What's more, the world LOVED Babylon. That bore thinking about. What's worse, riflemen would soon appear, ending the crushing advantage of France's glorious cavalry. That would end offensive operations for quite some time. Militarily, the new King saw some things that could be done. Cattaraugus was ordered to be brutally starved, and the cavalry garrison was moved towards the remaining Iroquois cities. Oil Springs was devastated in a late in the season raid, but not quite captured. 1405 AD (1) - Cattaraugus, having been brutally repressed for long enough, ends all resistance to the ways of the French. Various units are built, and King Marius switches production from cavalry in most places to banking institutions and other buildings, leaving musketeer production intact. The King's advisor, Richelieu begins traveling to a secret location. At the front, Oil Springs is captured by our glorious cavalry, and Ganogeh is overrun in the south, gaining us four Iroquois slave workers who were hiding in the town. Mauch Chunk, Cattaraugus, Kahnawake, and Ganogeh are brutally starved. 1410 AD (2) - Bescanon builds a harbor and begins work on a granary. Tyendenaga and Caughnawaga are overrun, and Gandestegion comes close to falling to our glorious cavalry. Richelieu is spotted in Toulouse. 1415 AD (3) - Avignon completes a courthouse and begins work on a cathedral. Kente produces an aqueduct and begins work on a cathedral. From far off, travelers bring word that the English city of Nottingham has constructed Newton's University. In Toulouse, Richelieu is declared Duke of the Eastern Provinces, with his capitol in the newly constructed Forbidden Palace. In Gandestegion, the city falls after hard fighting, and Hiawatha is led before King Marius in Paris, who orders him led beneath the guillotine. The head of the last leader of the Iroquois is mounted on a pike above the gates of Paris.
1420 AD (4) - Our furs for wines deal with England expires, and is
renewed at the cost of 2 sacks of gold per turn to Elizabeth. In
Babylon's Persian adventure, India leaps in on the side of the
Babylonians, who seem to be beating the crap out of Xerxes. Amongst
other building projects this year, King Marius is the recipient of a new
upper story on the west wing of the Palace from the grateful soldiers of
the French Army. Said Army is rapidly redeployed to the other side
of France, with musketeer units moving in from the west to take up the
slack in garrisons.
For the French counterattack, the cavalry who raided Marsielles are
destroyed to the last man, and the citizens of Marsielles are rescued from
Babylonian bondage. Showing their displeasure at this, the gods
destroy the entire world. The
scene of battle, 1450 AD Another thing. Unless there's a wonder, we ought to burn Babylon to the ground. The culture over there is way too ugly to try and absorb with our pitiful culture. :| |
| Stormboy, 10/5/02 |
| interregnum (1450 AD): Soon after his coronation, King Stormboy makes
some drastic decisions. The Babylonian war is about to turn ugly. We're
badly outnumbered and in risk of losing several cities in the east. The
King has therefore decreed that France needs to mobilize its economy for
war! Luckily we're able to find some allies: the Russians will help in
exchange for a supply of ivory, the Aztecs take a similar deal (and even
pay some gpt). The Aztecs must have had a wines deal with the
Babylonians, we take over as their supplier in exchange for a shipment
of silk. 1455 AD: Our cavalry regiments near Ashur and those in the hills near the border are ambushed and almost destroyed :(! The few survivors try to retreat. 1460 AD: Relentless charges by their Babylonian counterparts destroy several of our retreating cavalry units :(. 1465 AD: A pre-emptive strike near Akwesasne halts the Babylonian advance, but some of our workers were captured. A new threat is mounting near Gewauga. 1470 AD: A Babylonian attempt to found a new city near the ruins of Marseilles is thwarted by our cavalry. Skirmishes continue around Akwesasne and Gewauga, with heavy losses on our side. The King decides to abandon all scientific research, to free more money for upgrades and accelerated training for our troops. Babylonian frigates bombard our coast during hit-and-run attacks near Mauch Chunk. 1475 AD: Gewauga falls to a Babylonian cavalry raid :(. England declares war on our friends the Russians! 1480 AD: The Babylonian cavalry push further into French territory. Kiohero is lost, but our reinforcements arrive in time to take it back the same year. This time the Babylonians take heavy casualties. 1485 AD: The deranged English now declare war on the Aztecs as well! Both our allies now have a two front on their hands. A sabotage attempt is foiled near our iron mine in Lyons. The Babylonian fleet keeps pounding our coastal cities. Skirmishes continue near Akwesasne and Kiohero. 1490 AD: The Babylonians increase their efforts to re-take Kiohero, but pre-emptive cavalry strike thwarts their plans. The charge is led by the King's nephew, Stormboy the Defender. His actions inspire a man named DeGaulle to intensify the resistance against the invader. The King rewards DeGaulle for his efforts with the title "great leader of France" and invites him to join his court in Paris. 1495 AD: Reinforcements arrive in the east from all corners of France. Fighting continues near Kiohero. 1500 AD: Our own frigates, built in shipyards in the west, carry out a surprise attack against the city of Samarra. The city's vineyards are destroyed by our bombardment. We try to do the same to the stables near Ashur, but this time our aim is off. Meanwhile our main force assembled in Kiohero marches on Gewauga. After a fierce battle the city is once again in French hands :). What's more, the Babylonians appear to have lost most of their cavalry over the past few years. They're sending in some poorly armed bowmen now! Is France finally getting the upper hand? |
| Berrys, 10/10/02 |
| 1505 AD (1) - After the battle for Gewauga, General Berrier seizes the
throne of France in a military coup, backed by his cousin, Colonel
Berryo. News reaches France that Japan have declared war on the Aztecs
(snigger). The Aztecs and Babylonians agree on a peace treaty. The
Babylonian bowmen, after causing our cavalry considerable losses are
finally wiped out near Gewauga. King Berrier III orders the great hero
De Gaule to recruit an army at Paris. 1510 AD (2) - The Aztecs send envoys to the court of King Berrier and invite us to join a military alliance against the Japanese and declare war on them, we give Montezuma our support. Japan declares war on Russia (snigger again!). Catherine the Great ask us to declare war on England, however, given our current state we decline. Whilst defending Gewauga another great leader, Charlemaine, emerges and Colonel Berryo, now to be known as Berryo the Beast is promoted to Elite General. 1515 AD (3) - It is a sad day for France - De Gaulle's Cavalry Army is destroyed in the battle for Samarra (a single rifleman and cavalry as defenders, ho hum). 1520 AD (4) - Lyons starts building military academy. Half our navy is destroyed near Tyendenaga. England terminates our furs for wines deal and won't renew it. 1525 AD (5) - Gewauga is retaken by the Babylonians with a strong cavalry asault. General Berryo the Beast killed later on that year retaking Gewauga. Charlemaine whips up such fervour in Lyons that the citizens will be able to complete the Military Academy by 1530. 1530 AD (6) - More bloodshed. Continue building railways towards the main battle front. 1535 AD (7) - Samarra is finally taken and raised to the ground and its inhabitants carried away to France and put to work on building the railways. 1540 AD (8) - Battles continue near Lyons and Akwesasne. We start assembling a large Cavalry presence near Ashur. 1545 AD (9) - Huge and bloody battles ensue near Ashur. 1550 AD (10) - The Aztecs want some of our fine dyes and offer 20gpt, our cunning negotiators finally settle on a fee of 26gpt. India declares war on the Russians. We start massing Cavalry near Shuruppak. King Berrier III chokes to death laughing when envoys at our embassy in Babylon discover that Hammurabi will pay us 300+ gold up front and 30gpt for the next 50 years to end the war. I only found out that the Babylonians would negotiate a peace treaty after I had saved the game at the end of my tenth turn. The figures are approximate. This means we should carry on a bit longer IMHO and CRUSH THE BASTARDS - well, at least try and take their capital and raise Nippur and the surrounding cities (these are, after all their oldest cities and therefore the ones with the highest culture rating). |
| Marius, 10/10/02 |
| 1550 AD (0) - Hearing of the death of King Berrier, the armies near
Shuruppak raise one of their generals, Marius, as King Marius VI. The
France he inherits is a France engaged in bloody, genocidal warfare with
Babylon and their evil King, Hammurabi. The rest of the world, it
appears is also fighting their own wars, and none but the Russians have
any time for Babylon. The 11 turn anti-Japanese alliance isn't
going to run out during Marius' lifetime, but the trade deal with Ghandi
can be reworked, and our excess luxuries sold to England at exorbitant
rates. Our alliance with the Russians is defunct, but it is kept
going to possibly threaten the Babylonians. To help out Russia,
Magnetism is sold to Catherine for Russian incense, 5 sacks of gold per
turn, 6 sacks up front, and the Russian world map. That provides
the funding to drop all luxury spending and to pull in industrialization
a turn earlier. 1555 AD (1) - Montezuma wants to end our spice deal. Instead we toss in ivory, and the Aztec ruler gives us giant sums of cash. Catherine comes seeking to renew our alliance for...ivory? I think not. Instead we get her to pay a sack of gold for twenty turns in return for our map, and end the alliance. Feeling weakened, Russia declares peace on Japan. Babylonian attacks devastate our cavalry forces, but more are trained. Ashur is attacked, but we lack the forces to take it, and it is left defended by Babylonian cavalry. Shuruppak, on the other hand, is taken and obliterated, albeit with enormous losses to the attacking cavalry. 1560 AD (2) - Ashur is once again attacked and is still defended by cavalry. King Marius quietly orders the Babylonian citizens of Shuruppak executed, since it is impossible for the fast-moving cavalry of the King to take them along. In later years, King Marius will become known as the "Butcher of Shuruppak." 1565 AD (3) - Our armies near Kish are all but obliterated. The king, sensing defeat, leads a retreat back towards France. A great new army is gathered in Gewauga. 1570 AD (4) - In the Massacre of the Cowpen, three exhausted, bloody regiments of French cavalry throw themselves into the guns of a vastly superior Babylonian force to allow the king to escape. He returns to Paris to find that industrialization has been discovered. Research is begun on electricity. The Glorious Army moves out from Gewauga, the King at its head. They hew their way through five regiments of Babylonian cavalry on the way to Ashur. 1575 AD (5) - Montezuma and Tokugawa sign a peace treaty. The Glorious Army, plus reinforcements, moves in on Ashur. The northern rail net is all but completed. 1580 AD (6) - The Glorious Army engages a huge Babylonian force in and near Ashur, which results in a draw as French forces are unable to continue their drive into the city, now defended by a single wounded regiment of cavalry (that's somewhere in the realm of 15 combats, folks, not to mention the attacks on me on Babylon's turn). 1585 AD (7) - During the fighting at Ashur, one of the King's best generals, Napoleon, distinguishes himself. After a titanic struggle, Ashur itself is captured and razed to the ground. The survivors retreat to a nearby hill and prepare to defend themselves.
1590 AD (8 ) - Napoleon forms an army of cavalry. The Glorious
Army entrenches on Horse Hill near the ruins of Ashur, where the citizens
of that unlucky town are shot and left in shallow mass graves.
1600 AD (10) - The Glorious Army advances on Babylon. King Marius VI, the Butcher of Shuruppak and the Horse Hill, is killed in a skirmish with Babylonian assassins.
I've also got a couple settlers running. I'd like to grab some of that territory that we've been vacating. And the railnet is pretty much done, except the last links to Paradise and some up north. [Ed. note - This is the effective end of the original game. It continues, however, in Part 2] |
